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Oct282011

Common Threads between Islam and Mormonism

A number of years ago, I was on Larry King Live and was asked point blank if I had a problem with the appointments of Justices Roberts and Alito (both areRoman Catholics). My answer was very clear that I did not, as long as they shared my own conviction of upholding the Constitution — not trying to rewrite it — and as long as they were committed to the biblical values of the Founding Fathers. I was certain that both men were.

Many people today are quoting a statement reputedly made by Martin Luther, the great reformer, that he “would rather be ruled by a competent Turk (a Muslim) than an incompetent Christian.” First of all, there is no evidence whatsoever that Martin Luther ever said these words. But even if he did say them, it would have been a gross exaggeration used to make a point. He never lived under a Muslim ruler and did not know what that would be like. But I did. And I can tell you, there is no such thing as choosing between Muslim and non-Muslim leaders under Islam.

In America, we have the great privilege of choosing candidates based on our core values, rather than how they identify with our theological point of view.

In looking at some of the candidates for the 2012 election, one cannot help but notice the controversies that have arisen regarding the Mormon religion. As I considered Luther’s quote and the concerns regarding electing a Mormon president, I noticed some peculiar similarities between the Mormon faith and Islam as they relate to orthodox Christianity.

It's hard to believe that two religions that are worlds apart geographically have so many things in common. Here are some examples:

1. Both believe that Christianity was corrupt and incomplete until their respective founders came on the scene. For Islam, it was Muhammad; for Mormons, it was Joseph Smith.

2. They both have their own book of “sacred scripture.” While both tip their hats to the Bible, each see God’s Word as insufficient by itself. Both Islam and Mormonism use many biblical themes, narratives and personalities. But the Qur’an draws heavily from the apocryphal books rather than the authoritative cannon of the Bible.

3. In both cases, Islam and Mormonism see their religion as complete within itself. Above all, both repudiate biblical Christianity and identify orthodox Christianity as a false faith.

4. Both religions reject the doctrine of the Trinity. The Mormon’s concept of god includes many gods, not just one. Muslims view god as one, but as an aloof, remote god who could never become a man or relate to humanity. Allah can have mercy if he wants to, but he is also a cunning god.

5. Both religions reject the Bible as the sole and sufficient authority of faith. For Mormons, the Book of Mormon and other writings of the Latter Day Saints represent God’s final revelation. For Muslims, the Qur’an and the Sunna (traditions of Muhammad) constitute God’s final authoritative word.

6. They both reject the biblical teaching of original sin. Muslims believe Adam did not become completely depraved after disobeying God; he merely slipped but quickly recovered. Therefore to Muslims, humanity does not need redemption. Salvation in Islam is very uncertain, even when keeping the Five Tenants of Islam; although some teach that jihad will help in that quest for salvation. Mormons believe that they are not condemned by what many call “original sin.” In other words, they are not accountable for Adam’s transgression in the Garden of Eden.

Here are two questions Christians must ask when considering political candidates:

First, has the candidate been consistent in his/her political and moral values, or is he/she pandering? Second, has the candidate upheld their philosophical convictions throughout their public and private life, or did they change their political convictions to suit their audience?

All believers need to be good stewards and spend time in deep prayer before exercising their right to vote. God will give us wisdom so that we will not be persuaded by the slickest and the cleverest. We can trust Him to help us choose those who have proven core values.

Reader Comments (71)

Mormanism is a cult. I grew up in the Morman church and hated it. Their "catch phrase" if you will, is that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is the one true church and that all other churches are wrong. I could never accept this. My spirit was never moved by their teachings, or ways. I thank God he worked on my heart many years after I left the church and revealed to me how to truly become a child of the living God.
October 28, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterKaren
I too was raised in the Mormon church, to the extent of being a fourth generation Mormon. Yes it is a cult, no question about it. We were taught to NEVER question anything about Mormonism and that if you did there was something wrong with YOU, not the church. Myself and one of my sisters have been blessed to learn of the one and only true Jesus and that it is only thru Him that we have salvation, not the countless works that are expected in the Mormon religion. We unfortuneatly still have another sister that clings to Mormonism, we pray daily for the light of Christ and His saving grace to come into her life.
October 28, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterLibby
IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MORMON FAITH, GET THE DVD "THE BIBLE AND vs THE BOOK OF MORMON," PUBLISHED BY LIVING HOPE MINISTRIES, BRIGHAM CITY, UT 84302, www.lhvm.org.
THE BIBLE IS USED BY THE SMITHSONIAN INSTITUTE AND MANY ARCHIOLOGIST AS AN ACCURATE SOURCE OF INFORMATION.
THE BOOK OF MORMON IS NEVER USED BY THE SMITHSONIAN AS A SOURCE FOR ARCHILOGICAL INFORMATION.
THE LEADERS OF THE MORMON CHURCH DEFEND THE BOOK'S MANY ABSOLUTELY FOOLISH CLAIMS APPARENTLY KNOWING THAT THEY ARE FALSE.
October 28, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterJ MATHENY
First, I am thankful that Libby and Karen have found the true and living God.
Mormonism IS a cult yet we, as Christians, DO share many core values. The Mormons are well known for their high moral standards.
How refreshing to have a President with a conscience. Is electing a Mormon any worse than electing an unbeliever? Christians even sometimes have errant ideas.
Please think of the alternative!!!
One of the reasons this country was founded was freedom of religion.
It may be that a Mormon will be the Republican candidate.
And If we, as conservative Christians, campaign against having a 'Mormon' President...
we will get what we deserve, the alternative.

Mormon people are no different than the rest of the unsaved, believing a lie.
Will be praying for your sister, Libby.

P.S. Respectfully, Dr. Youssef, the Mormons do not hate the American way of life OR want to kill us as the terrorists do. They are in need of The True Saviour.
October 28, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterJessie
I wholly agree with you, Everyone was afraid that the Pope would be running things if John Kennedy got in; well he did, and no, the Pope didn't. In this case, the alternative is just toooo scary of a thought. Mormans are very patriotic and I don't think Mr Romney would have mostly communists and socialists around him for advice. I especially like your P.S.
October 28, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterRuthann
I LIVED WITH A MORMON FAMILY FOR A WHILE WHEN I WAS GROWING UP. TO PUT IT IN A NUTSHELL, THEY ARE FLAT WEIRD!!!!

I HAVE BEEN A CHRISTIAN FOR A LOT OF YEARS, AND FIND THAT THE TRUE WORD OF GOD AND THE BIBLE ARE ENOUGH FOR ME. "GOD SAID, I BELIEVE IT, THAT SETTLES IT".

I WILL PRAY FOR ALL MORMONS, THAT THEY COME TO KNOW THE TRUE SAVIOR!!
October 28, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterCYNTHIA L. FINGER
Original sin is not strictly biblical. It came from St. Augustine's interpretation of Scripture. The Eastern Church and the Fathers never accepted original sin but, rather, ancestral sin. This means that we are born with the inclination to sin, not with sin itself.
October 28, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterPaul Spanos
1st, I'm not mormon, I'm protestant, but I find it a bit extreme to compare Mormons to Islam... Many Christians may not agree w/their brand of Christianity, but they do believe in the atonement of Jesus Christ. They also don't stone women or behead non-Mormons. Whether you find it to be false Christianity or false religion, it's far from evil. There are bad branches of everything (ex-westboro baptist church) but Mormons don't teach evil, they don't look at Israel & America as "the big & little Satan" and they certainly are not jihadists. I agree w/dr. Youssef 99%of the time, and I know he can't control how readers respond to his article, but what I see on this comment wall is hate for a group of people who, why they may differ in theology, are generally a force for good in the world; whereas we know the goal of many Muslims around the world - a global caliphate. We are living in a time, where yes our faith should come first, and we should hold firm to our theologies, but we need to unite with those who are a force of good, not tear them down and divide, creating new enemies.there is growing evil all around the globe and in our country ...the "m" word we should be concerned about is not the Mormons.
October 28, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterKatie
Dr Youssef is right. Mormonism and islam are extremely similar. Not just for the parallels drawn here, but for the polygamy, the exclusion of others and many other reasons. I have been through both systems in my search for the truth, so I can tell you that from the inside, the comparisons are very scary.
We need to be very careful in allowing either to gain any more power, because it will be to our detriment.
Believe me.
October 29, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterSigdrifa
Katie,
I see no "hate" being posted in these comments. Because facts are pointed out does not mean it's hate.
I really get tired of always hearing this. Homosexuals spout the same thing if you don't accept the homosexual agenda. Incidentally, I would happily vote for Mitt Romney should he become the Republican candidate for president even though he is not my preferred choice. Also, I am not a mormon
October 29, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterFred
I think what the article is contrasting is false teachings from truth. We as Christians must be able to recognize truth from lies- disguised in whatever form. There are many religions in the world today. Though they may teach peace is some way or form, if they leave out the word of God, they are false teachings. We must ask ourselves, is it in line with the Bible, the Holy Scripture? If not, then it is false teaching. False teachings are decay to our society as a whole.

Our politician’s may say they are Christians, but are they? Do they say what we want to hear? I challenge you to do due diligent and inquire of their beliefs. It is up to every one of us to do our own research to ensure we have the best candidate. Our leadership determines our destiny. Don’t believe me? Read the Bible – see how Israel leadership led them to downfall. Think it can’t happen to America? Look at Rome-see the comparison- it is already happening within our Country and within our churches. It starts with division from within! That is our poison pill.
October 29, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterBarb
Right now Christian beliefs can be classified into two forms,Compromising & non- Compromising Churches. In Chapter revelations Jesus Christ credits the Philadelphia Church as the best of the 7 Churches, not just for their Non Compromising but for there ZEAL towards the faith. The older name for Philadelphia in Asia Minor was called the "City of Allah" which was before Islam came in. It does suggest that The Zeal in Islam is what is required, even though not the faith itself. In other words the zeal of Islam is to be applied in the Christian Faith, which Zeal is Non compromising on the word. The same zeal that the Apostles & Saints moved with in the Christian Faith. Unlike the majority of Christians & preachers who are so compromising today., like the Church of Laodicea- city of Zeus. . Where the former is to the Truth of GOD the latter is to Paganism.
October 29, 2011 | Unregistered Commenterabey
Romney's positions demonstrate that he "share[s] [our] conviction of upholding the Constitution — not trying to rewrite it — and [is] committed to the biblical values of the Founding Fathers." As long as Romney's positions align closely with those of social/fiscal conservatives, evangelical Christians should not refuse to vote for him simply because he is Mormon. Mormonism is a definitely a false religion but we are electing a President, not a pastor.
October 29, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterDrew
I echo many of the comments above. Perhaps I am looking at this in a less than ideal way, but I agree with some of the previous thoughts which say that voting for a Mormon, in and of itself, is not something to be vehemently avoided, simply BECAUSE they are Mormon. So often, our political leaders do NOT hold our same values and beliefs, particularly as it relates to theology. If I had a choice between a democratic candidate who claims to be a "christian" in the sense that most people in this country think they're "christian" without any real relationship with Jesus Christ, practicing a religion without a relationship, and a republican candidate who happened to be Mormon, I would most likely choose the Mormon, as long as his views on some key issues aligned with mine. I believe we need to be focusing on two main issues during this next election, which need to take precedence over theological views: abortion and Israel. Israel, primarily needs to be the ONE huge question that these candidates are being forced to answer, which at the moment has been entirely avoided. We need to know whether or not each of the candidates truly understand the imminent threat that Iran poses due to their dangerous end times eschatology and whether or not they will be willing to STAND with Israel.

Just a quick note to Katie- I don't think anyone is being hateful towards either group. It is not hateful to proclaim truth, and the truth simply is that BOTH of these religions, along with so many others in the world, are teaching lies. There aren't varying degrees of right and wrong. Jesus said, you're either FOR me or AGAINST me. No matter how much apparent "good" anyone does, if they are doing it without Jesus, it is utterly worthless, end of story. The PEOPLE are not worthless, but their works absolutely are. We need to be praying for them and loving them, but we need to understand that ANYONE who proclaims lies and attempts to draw others into their belief system is doing the work of Satan and drawing people away from God and away from truth. We CANNOT stand by and simply watch it happen.
October 29, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterWhen Heaven Shakes
As a former 30 year temple-going Mormon who has been disowned by my Mormon family, I can say unequivocally that Mormonism and Islam are very similar. As a Mormon I was under blood oath covenants to give everything, including my life to the Mormon church or the "Kingdom of God". Mitt Romney has taken these same oaths. If he violates these oaths, his salvation and his ability to be with his family for eternity are in jeopardy. He is under oath to obey the prophet, and all the laws of the church. The laws of the church (kingdom) "trump" the laws of the land (constitution). As an attorney who has taken oaths in two states to uphold and defend the Constitution from enemies foreign and domestic, I can say that the Mormon oaths I was under came before any other oaths. The more one studies the true history of Mormonism, the more the similarities with Islam become apparent. The movie September Dawn shows what really happened at the Mountain Meadows Massacre. Innocent men, women, and children had their throats slit at the direction of Brigham Young. They practiced blood atonement - killed people for sins that were not covered by Jesus' blood. They had an organization called the Danites who killed many people. I would be dead today if they were still doing this. Polygamy is still in the Doctrine and Covenants and is still part of Mormon doctrine and is not practiced only because of laws against it. The white horse prophecy is still alive and well today. When the constitution will hang by a thread - the Mormon priesthood will rise up and take over the country. They are patriotic in outward presentation, but seditious at the core. In the mid 1800's they actually declared their independence from the United States. The US government had trouble dealing with them since their inception. Joseph Smith actually wanted to be president - he wanted to be prophet, priest, and king. He compared himself to Mohammed. Their true history is treasonous. For years Mormons took blood oaths to avenge the blood of the prophet Joseph Smith in opposition to the government of the country. In their theology - their church is the stone cut out of the mountain which will subdue the earth. They operate as a theocratic communist system internally. It has been written that they have a council of fifty and another constitution written that will replace our constitution. They see their church (organization) as the perfect government of God. The religious freedom they claim to believe in is the freedom they give to others to worship, it is not a freedom that comes directly from God - it comes from them. If you want to know the truth about Mormonism - go to utlm.org (Sandra Tanner's website). The Mormon church has done all it can over many years to hide its true history. Many Christians are being deceived by not understanding the true nature and history of Mormonism. It is my hope that we will wake up to the reality of what is taking place. We need now more than ever to pray for discernment.
I to am a former temple mormon and I share the same views as Shawna. It is time for people to stop all this political correctness. The mormon doctrine would tell all Christians that their churches are all false and that their ministers are all hirlings of satan. In earlier days they would have never called themselves Chrisians. They would have told you in no uncertain terms that they are mormons. Their ideas for this country, no matter how patriotic they may sound, is that in the end times that they will save our country while our contitution is hanging by a thread and that we will all come under their "united order", where we will governed by their leaders who they believe (their prophet), has the only revelation from God. I know precious mormon people, but no matter how good or how patriotic they may appear, they are lost souls who need Jesus, and need to be freed from a religion that oppresses them. I agree with Dr. Yousef, we need to pray and seek God's wisdom as we seek the right person to lead this country.
October 29, 2011 | Unregistered Commenteralice Taylor
I was blasted on a political page for comparing Islam and Mormonism. Our society is so intent on mind control, through the peer pressure of political correctness, that many Christians have never learned to distinguish between Biblical truth and cultic lies. We are admonished to learn Christ's teachings and to not listen to those who do not adhere to Scripture...Islam and Mormonism both come from men who claim to have additional insight from God...their teachings are not scriptural, therefore they are (according to scripture) not from God. According to scripture, men who claim to speak God's Word and to do His Will, and who do not, are evil men, no matter how they appear or what "good" works they perform. We are not supposed to follow them or their teachings. I would have a difficult time trusting a leader from either religious group, as Muhammad said it was OK to lie to non-muslims to achieve Islamic goals and, as Mormonism does not teach scriptural truth, how could I trust a leader who did recognize God's truth. Our nations laws were based on scriptural truths.
October 29, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterHope Henry
Both the founder of Islam & the founder of Mormonism had visitations by spirit beings. We know that Satan himself will appear as an angel of light, deceiving the very elect, if that were possible. These founders's faiths were built on the strength of the faith the founders had in these visions & "revelations," as being from an angel of light & brought about the writings of the books they call sacred.

As these visitations & visions are considered normal, & from "God" I firmly believe that other visions & visitations have followed or will follow for them as well, as the leaders of our super-power nation- who stands with Israel.

This is a religious battle, a spritual battle.

Obama has left HUGE footprints, proving his loyalty & affection to those nations & religionswho call us enemies & vow to destroy us. Previously, when Presidents did something bad & damaging with a signature, a signature by the next president was able to STOP & begin to undo some of the damage of the precious president(s). Not so with President Obama, he has thrown money at everything, anyone, & everyone, to get some of "his money" into everyone's pockets to make them feel obligated to him. It is difficult to duck, cover, & dodge all the hand-outs he flings all around. With all his spending, no amount of future signatures can begin to reel back in the money from the spending that Obama has done, wreaking deep & lasting havoc on our economy. And, that was his point! That was his purpose!

This is a religious battle, a spritual battle.
October 30, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterA Christian & A Patriot
I am not a mormon and am not biased against them or any other faith. However, I have been told that in the mormon church there are different levels of society and acceptance in various temples depends on what level, usually based on contributions, a member belongs. . Is this true? I cannot accep that condition within any church or government.
October 30, 2011 | Unregistered Commenterhonnesty
Please go to mormon.org to get correct information about the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.
October 31, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterRebecca Brand
Mormonism is false and is not Christian. Jessie mentioned above "Is electing a Mormon any worse than electing an unbeliever?" It cannot be worse because a mormon IS an unbeliever. As has been discussed already, mormons are first devoted to their religion before anything else, under threat of losing their family for eternity, etc.

If you do want to investigate the mormon faith, be very careful - the most dangerous lie is the one that is closest to the truth - what they have done is changed the meaning of words Christians use all the time in church. Find out what they mean by "testimony" or "atonement" or "grace" and be sure to catch what "exaltation" means! (here's a hint, it doesn't just mean eternal life as they may tell you).
October 31, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterTruth
There is another glaring difference between Christianity and Islam/mormonism. That is the elevation of women as taught by Jesus of Nazareth. Only under Christ do we see women treated as equals before God. Remember that it was the female followers who first saw the living Christ and knew that the promises of God to send a Messiah were true. Even thinking about that day gives me chills. But there is another problem of Islam and Mormonism and that is the practice of pologamy. At its very core, one sees a couple of aging men (prophets) who want to have sex with many younger women. The society of their time might have frowned on that practice, so those "prophets" made the practice part of the religious path. Everything else that grew out those two "prophets' " work and writings sprang from that depraved desire. Of course that was in the days way before Viagra. . .
October 31, 2011 | Unregistered Commentercdean
Wait, was it not Dr. Youssef who only months ago was crowning Newt Gingrich the next King David? So it is better to support a Christian who cheated on two wives, one of which was battling cancer, than it is to vote for a Mormon who seems to be a real family man? That is asinine. And this list of similarities is laughable. Any religion that is not Christianity will fall into five of these six points. So the only real similarity that Mormonism and Islam share is that they are a religion other than Christianity. And to the person above who says only the Christian faith respect the rights of women.......give me a break. Many churches will not even allow women to speak from the pulpit. As much as folks like Dr. Youssef want it to be true, one's political beliefs are not an extension of their religious dogma. Politics is a secular business, and pastors need to think carefully before getting involved, because I believe secualr politics stains Christianity. I believe many people are turning away from the church because they see religion as just another tool to assist in attaining secular power. And neither party represents the words of Christ in the New Testament. Liberals stray from the message when it comes to sexual ethics, and many conservatives seem to be salivating at the opporunity to widen the gap between rich and poor to ever more historically high levels.
October 31, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterMr. D
If Dr. Youssef has no objection to a Catholic president, he should have no objection to a president who belongs to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. The LDS Church encourages its members to be involved in politics and to support freedom, but it never endorses any political party or candidate. It therefore will not endorse Mitt Romney, John Huntsman, Jr., or Barack Obama for president, but asks each individual to support the candidate of his or her choice. A President Mitt Romney would not ask his LDS leaders for political advice, they would not give him advice, and the only political positions the church has ever publicly taken were on moral issues which you should all agree with (i.e. AGAINST abortion, homosexual conduct, and gay marriage).
You will find that Mormons agree with the TRUE teachings of every religion, because we accept ALL truth, and we do not believe that we have all answers to all questions. Since Christianity, Judaism, and even Islam all relate back to truths taught by Moses and Abraham in the Old Testament, they all have some of the same basic tenets. Mormons also believe that everything taught by Jesus Christ and his original apostles were true, but we are not required to believe interpretations and traditions created and passed down by kings such as Alexander the Great, wicked Catholic popes who took power by killing their competitors during the Dark Ages, and Martin Luther or John Calvin, who criticized the Catholic doctrine but never claimed to be true apostles or prophets. There is no true "orthodox" or "Biblical" Christianity, because the Romans killed all of the apostles, the Catholic Church was corrupted by men, and all protestant churches were created by making changes to teachings of the corrupted Catholic Church.
So whether the Christian Church that we each choose to attend came through wicked kings, unauthorized reformers, ministers interpreting the Bible in their own way, or by revelation to Joseph Smith in 1820, we should stop damning each other to hell and try to learn from the truth we each have, including our mutual testimonies of Jesus Christ as our "Savior and Redeemer."
October 31, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterLDS Attorney
[Dear Michael, I saw this interesting web item, for what it's worth. Note 19th century "revelations."]

The Living River of History

by Bruce Rockwell


Can you name a meandering river which can affect the 2012 US Presidential election? I can. And are you aware, as I am, that a Presidential candidate can be influenced by a 19th century teenager's occultic "revelations"?
All humans are affected by the Living River of History. The "headwaters" of it was Adam, according to Judaism, Christianity, Islam and some other faiths.
In the Old Testament (Deut. 28) we find that "tributaries" (those who choose to be part of this River) will be blessed while "distributaries" (those choosing to flow away from it) will be cursed. Those deciding to be totally disconnected from the fresh Living River soon find themselves in polluted, dying "oxbow lakes."
The OT period was notable for its fluidity: Israelites repeatedly flowing away from God and then repenting and returning back to Him numerous times; heathen "oxbow lakes" creating their own "gods" and being allowed by the true God to take into captivity the erring Israelites.
Then, at the right moment, came the arrival of the only One who could fulfill all of the OT's detailed predictions of a future Messiah, His arrival happening before the 70 AD destruction of the Jewish temple which contained records proving that Jesus was a descendant of Abraham - records that would be unavailable to anyone after 70 AD who might falsely claim to be the long awaited Promised One. The same timely arrival guaranteed that the Living River, led by the One who offers "living water," would take on new life.
Since the emergence in the 7th century of Islam - which drew greatly from both OT and NT, yet chose to be a distributary away from the River - many scholars have viewed it as the final "scourge" or Antichrist (note references like "Assyrian," Euphrates," "land of Nimrod" in Daniel, Micah, Revelation etc.).
The end-time Islamic "scourge" will be allowed by God to temporarily persecute and purify Jews and Christians who have "fallen away" from their faiths. (Jews, especially those in entertainment, are more expert in apostasy than Christians since they've been at it 2000 years longer than Christians have - but Christians seem to want to catch up to the Jews!)
I should add that Islam won't play its predicted role all alone; it has more than enough oil money to "buy" leaders of foreign countries while at the same time bribing disloyal American leaders to turn against true American patriots.
Re the occultic "revelations" by a 19th century teenager (above) - who heavily "appropriated" many King James Bible verses in order to create one of the most delusive distributaries of all time - see the internet which has tons of data on this religious innovation of 1830.
Finally, if you ignore the God-ordained Living River of History or (much worse) try to destroy or even dilute it, you will be swept down it to an ocean made by your own never-ending tears of agony and despair!
November 1, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterSharon
Here’s Romney at a September debate in Iowa: “I never said I was pro-choice, but my position was effectively pro-choice. I’ve said that time and time again. I’ve changed my position.“

He did the same thing with gay marriage rights:
http://news.yahoo.com/mitt-romney-flip-flops-gay-marriage-abortion-stances-191700876.html

So much for "i.e. AGAINST abortion, homosexual conduct, and gay marriage"-LDS Attorney
November 1, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterBoston Bob
It's sad to read of so many Christians' hatred to one faith. Now is a time to stand together with those who believe in saving our country from a destructive path. I hope readers of this article and these posts will stop the campaign of fear built on a lack of understanding and unite together with all who see a better day for America!
November 1, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterZach
The similarities between Islam and Mormonism do not stop with the things that Dr. Youssef shared. Islam and Mormonism's additional revelations, supposedly came from an angel: In Islam, it was supposedly Gabriel; whereas Mormonism has Moroni (compare this with 2 Corinthians 11:14; Galatians 1:8).

Additionally, both Mormonism and Islam believe in polygamy (although, in order for Utah to become a state in the Union, Mormonism had to ban this practice).
November 1, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterGreg
WOW!!! Mr. Youssef, your article is as accurate as an article that might be entitled: "Common Threads between Mainstream Christianity and Al Quaeda".

Is the above tainted? Yes it is. However, one could argue that there are similarities as well. Hey, they both are comprised of humans which have a common "heart", complete with heart valves. Not to mention they all have lived upon the planet earth, and breath a common element called oxygen...

Having known tons of LDS people, they are so farrrrrrr removed from Islam as could be possible.

You should be ashamed of yourself Mr. Youssef. Honestly sir ! Get some honesty going in the future...! A Horrifically written Halloween article.
November 1, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterJerry
Jerry, I am guessing you haven't read the numerous posts from those who have broken away from Mormonism above. Your attempt at common links between mainstream Christianity and Al Qaida I assume are an attempt at humor, whereas Youssef's article seems well thought out and supported by others. My other assumption is that you have a direct tie to LDS other than "having known tons of LDS people", as you seem to take this personally. You should be ashamed of yourself Jerry, how about you study Mormonism instead of citing the "tons" of friends you know, and learn the facts!
November 1, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterTom
Having been a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints all my life, it makes me so sad when I hear or read "Christians" speaking so "un-Christian-like" about my beliefs. In 49 years, I have never heard a single person in any type of church meeting I've attended, bash or talk critically about any other religion. In fact, it's one of our basic tenants of faith (the 11th Article of Faith to be exact) that we do not believe in persecuting other faiths or restricting their ability to worship according to their beliefs "We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege; let them worship how, where, or what they may." (11th Article of Faith). When I read the distortions and lies about my beliefs from many "anti-Mormon" detractors, I often wonder why they can't just leave the church peacefully if they no longer believe. There are Christian ways to try and love those who you feel are "lost" and there are very unkind and un-Christ-like ways to attack those you believe are "lost." When someone leaves my faith, I may feel sad in my heart for them, but I certainly don't attack them or their decision because another one of our beliefs is that man has been given the agency from God to choose for himself. It is not up to anyone to force another to believe a certain way. I am sorry for whatever experiences led some of the previously "Mormon" commentors to feel such vitriol and hate. But I can tell you that as a "Mormon" I share the same values and moral codes that all Christians do. I believe Jesus Christ is my personal Savior, I love my husband and children, I love this great country and believe the constitution of this land was divinely inspired by good, faithful men. I believe in being honest in everything I do and in working hard and in upholding the laws of the land. I believe in loving all people and serving others in whatever capacity I can. I don't personally know Mitt Romney and am not even sure if I will be voting for him in the Primary, but I know he has been faithful to the basic morals and values of my religion. If there are those who are worried that if he or any other Mormon is elected President, they will be taking marching orders from the president of our church, then I would like to allay your fears. Our church is 100% politically neutral. We are not allowed to discuss politics in church meetings in any way, but are encouraged to be involved in the political process and to make choosing our elected officials a matter of individual prayer and personal conviction. I have no problem with someone who does not agree with Mitt Romney's political views or stances, (the vote is still out as to whether I do) but when I see so many Christians vehemently declaring they will not vote for him simply because he is a "Mormon," I am dumbfounded as that thought would never occur to me about an individual of another faith. The candidate I am looking for to lead this nation is one of character and integrity. His personal religious beliefs would not be a factor for me so long as the basic morals and values of their religion aligned with my own morals and values. I am not sure why Dr. Yousseff felt the need to try and link my faith with that of Islam, but I can only hope it was not to try and continue fostering more "anti-Mormon" sentiment. Thank you for allowing me to comment and respond to the above article and comments.
November 1, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterCheryl
It amazes how the eyes of the people are blinded when it comes to cults, i.e. Mormons, JW's, Muslim's. The information about the real beliefs are out there in plain sight. Of course these people do not want to believe their religion is false. That would drive deep a nail into one’s spiritual beliefs. One thing that that I have an issue with is that these religions deny the Deity of Jesus. The three I mentioned DO NOT believe in the Deity of Jesus Christ. He was God and He was man. It may not be the most important doctrine, but again, if they do not believe in Christ's Deity, then how can He save? Only God can save a soul from their sin, so if Jesus is not God, then how can we be saved? If Mormons claim that Jesus saved them from their sin but do not believe that Jesus is Almighty God, then what??? Jesus is either God , Elohim, Almighty God, the Great I AM, or He was the biggest fake that ever stepped foot on earth. Oh the Mormons have a pretty little package. All cults do. They tightly wrap their lies with red ribbons and spiritual glitter. The JW's say some weird stuff as well. In fact, they, JW's, have changed that 144,000 doctrine again. Where they got that in first place is beyond me, The book of Revelation speaks of 144,000 Jewish Male Virgins representing the 12 tribes of Israel that will preach the Gospel during the tribulation period. Anyway. Mormons "think" they are Christian..HOW? That is a deep question. Christian by works??? HA, we all know works of the flesh profit no one. And works will not get you any extra credit, because if that were true, then God would become a debtor to us, yeah like that's gonna happen. The late Dr. Walter Martin had such tremendous insight's to these cults, yes CULTS, in a book so titled..."Kingdom of the Cults." Do you think that a Mormon would actually read that book? Guess which ones he covered first...YEP, the JW's and Mormons. If you think it is shame on Dr. Yousseff, really, it is shame on the founders and promoters of these cults. I had to laugh because the founder of the JW’s was killed in a gun fight with the police, my founder hung on a cross and died for my sins, wow, that is a real paradox…It is sad but prophesied that many people are DECEIVED and lead astray. My words may be harsh, but try reading Jesus' words to the false teachers during His day, and how Paul dealt with false teachings. If if I am harsh are acting “non Christian,” oh wait, why would I add an apology, momma said there would be days like this...LOL
November 1, 2011 | Unregistered Commenternawdew
EVERY christian doctrine has been perverted by Mormonism, including the fall, the nature of God, the nature of man, the nature of Satan, the plan of salvation, the priesthood, the temple, marriage, heaven and hell.
As a former temple-going Mormon for thirty years, I only boldly speak the truth about Mormonism now because of my love and concern for the Mormon people.
I challenge Mormons to put down your Mormon scriptures and put the New Testament to the test. Is it true? If it is - then Mormon doctrine cannot be true. If you sincerely read the New Testament and ask God to reveal the truth of who He is and the truth about Mormonism to you, He will.

You shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free.
Jesus is Truth AND Grace...Where is the Grace?
November 2, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterJessie
Michael:

I felt a need to address your points raised in this article as they are not accurate

1-Martin Luther went around his nation posting 90 points of error in Catholic doctrine, paving the way for the protestant movement. Today, many are known by the designation Lutheran. By your own admission he is the great reformer, in essence the founder of Protestantism. Wouldn’t your argument have to start all over again if you concede this point?

2-The people of the Book of Mormon carried what had been compiled of the bible and carried it across the sea and then lived by it’s teachings. There is no mere tip of the bible
But a strict adherence to it’s precepts. Furthermore, John declared “the testimony of Jesus to be the spirit of prophecy. As long as it endures so does his voice. His warning to not add to this book was to the book of revelations since the Bible had not yet been compiled nor the gospel of john yet written

3-Mormon refers to the historian that compiled the Book Of Mormon. The official name id the church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints. The book of Mormons purpose is to convince the Jew and gentile that Jesus is the Christ. You instead use the term Mormon to misrepresent us

4-The doctrine of the identity of God was created by catholic bishops 300 years after the apostles left the earth, and termed the Nicean creed. The protestant faiths adapted it. Yet
tn the Bible Jesus repeatedly stated his Father sent him, pleaded with his Father for release from his sacrifice and aknowedge the Father as the source of his power. He states to Mary Magdelene, that “he has not yet ascended to my Father, he will ascend to my God and your God”. This is put to rest upon his baptism when the Father declared from heaven this is my beloved son. Our belief in the trinity is sacrosanct. It is the interpretation we differ.

5-The Book Of Mormon states that because of the fall, our natures have become evil continualy. Adam’s actions clearly brought upon us these conditions. The difference is that we are responsible for the sins we commit. The Bible clearly shows Adam was faithful after his transgression, not all his posterity was, however.

Finally you imply guilt by association with Islam, but upon research, Islam began when Mohammad met his wife’s family who wanted to return to the true worship of Abraham. Three faiths, Christianity, Judiasm and islam all find their common origin with him. If you conceed that, you are condemned by your own argument. You can’t distort our faith. Wed will define our own message, and let everyone else decide for themselves what is true.

If we can only have common respect for one another’s faith as Americans then this really will be a place where the weak are free, and the strong are just…
November 2, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterMike Lovins
The article about the Mormons being like Muslims is full of false hoods. The author needs to do better research.
November 2, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterDJ Smith
Looks like mormon.org has emailed this out to their cult, I mean members. Nice work team! All we have to do is criticize the authors character to make us feel better instead of actually removing the veil from our eyes and seeing the truth. My question to ALL of you is this: How do you account for the following verses?
-In relation to original sin: Romans 5:12-21 and 1 Corinthians 15:22
-In regards to the book of Mormon or anything else you use: Revelation 22:18-19
-In regards to #11 of your articles of faith: Genesis 4:2-5
I would honestly be curious, and would ask that you not post until you answer my questions. Thank you
November 3, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterTruth Seeker
I wonder what Mr. Youssef's agenda is? Why would he promote such fear and hatred of the Mormons?
November 3, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterAdam
Adam, please answer the questions I posted above. To answer your question, Youssef probably doesn't want to see people burn in hell for eternity, that would be my guess as to why he writes about the ills of Mormonism and Islam. Before you say, "How Christ-like is that?" I would say, it is very Christ-like. Jesus and the Apostles knew that cults and sects would rise up to destroy people like yours, and that is why you cannot answer the questions posed above, and that is why you need to see that your faith is built on sand and need Jesus and Jesus only!
November 3, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterTruth Seeker
I was a Mormon for over 30 years. I carried a Bible around for all these years and had no idea what it was about. My husband had courage like Dr. Youssef does, and boldy challenged me to study the New Testament and put it to the test. I did so and God removed the blindness from my eyes. The entire true gospel is in the Bible. There are warnings in Galations about "another gospel" being preached. It says in Gal. 1: 6-8 "I marvel that you are turning away from Him so soon that called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, which is not another; but there are some that trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we preached to you, let him be accursed." The gospel of Mormonism is "another gospel". It says you must work for your salvation, the biblical gospel says you work because you have salvation. Ephesians 2: 8-10 says "For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God not of works, lest anyone should boast." We are all born sinners, I did not realize that as a Mormon - It says in Romans 3: 23 "For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God." The teaching that we are becoming gods is blasphemous - consider that Satan wanted to elevate himself to be like God. It says in Isaiah 14: 14-15 (Satan saying) "I will ascend above the heights of the clouds, I will be like the most High, yet you shall be brought down to Sheol, to the lowest depths of the pit" (God responding to Satan's plan). The doctrine that man can become a god is Satan's plan. There is only one God. It says in Isaiah 43: 10-11 "You are My witnesses says the Lord, and my servant whom I have chosen, that you may know and believe me, and understand that I am He. Before me there was no God formed, nor shall there be after me. I, even I, am the Lord, and besides me there is no Savior." There are not many gods, there is one God and one God alone - Jesus Christ who paid for our sins on the cross.
Thank you Dr. Youssef for maintaining our freedom of speech. In attempting to comment on the Deseret News article that Daniel Peterson came out with today, I was unable to do so. Every comment must be approved by editorial staff.

To all the Mormons who feel that they are enjoying the great blessings of freedom under our Constitution, remember this "where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty."
I was taught as a Mormon that the Mormon church was the 'stone cut out of the mountains" that would fill the entire earth spoken of in the book of Daniel.

However, in Acts 4: 10-11 (speaking of the man Peter healed) "Let it be known to you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, Whom you crucified, Whom God raised from the dead, by Him this man stands before you whole. This is the stone which was rejected by you builders, which has become the chief cornerstone. Nor is their salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved."

The Mormon church is an organization - Jesus Christ is God. Jesus Christ is eternal. The Mormon church is not.
Can any Mormon answer me why these "scriptures" and statements contradict each other?

The indwelling of God:
1. The Lord has said in the heart of the righteous doth he dwell - Alma 34: 36 BUT the idea that the Father and the Son dwell in a man's heart is an old sectarian notion and is false - D&C 130: 3

Salvation by Grace:
2. Remember, after you are reconciled to God, that it is only in and through the grace of God that you are saved - 2 Ne. 10: 24 BUT Fulfilling the commandments bringeth remission of sins - Moroni 8: 25 and Accept ye shall keep my commandments...ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven - 3 Ne 12: 20

Child Baptism:
3. And their children shall be baptized for the remission of their sins when eight years old - D&C 68: 27 BUT Listen to the words of Christ...Your Lord and God...I know that it is solemn mockery before God, that ye should baptize little children Yea, teach parents that they must repent and be baptized - Moroni 8: 8-10

Number of Gods:
4. Now Zeezrom said: is there more than one God? and he answered, no - Alma 11: 38-39 BUT
There are three gods - the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost (Bruce McConkie - Mormon Doctrine, 317)

This is taken from Fast Facts on Mormonism: John Ankerberg and John Weldon
For my brief published response to Dr. Youssef's article, see

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700193949/Cherry-picking-similarities-a-powerful-way-to-mislead.html

I could have said much more, but, of course, it was just a short newspaper column.

For what it's worth, by the way, I'm a believing, practicing Mormon, and I hold a Ph.D. (from the University of California at Los Angeles) in Islamic studies and Arabic.
November 4, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterDaniel Peterson
That's great Daniel, but where are you from again? BYU? Have you been to the Middle East, have you been persecuted there? Sounds like Dr. Youssef, may know a little bit more about the subject than you do. Anyone can write an article and put words like "cherry-pick" in it to misrepresent an article. Daniel, I have read the comments above and am curious if you, in all your wisdom and expertise, can answer the scriptural questions posed above (Shawna K, andTruth seeker). All you have done here is post your local neighborhood newspaper, again, anyone can do that.
Anxiously waiting your reply!
November 4, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterThomas K. Snellings
Thank you Pastor for your kind words of truth about Mormonism! I was a 6th generation Mormon from Utah and in the Church for 30 years - miraculously I was saved 17 years ago. I can assure other readers that what is printed here about Mormonism is the truth. It saddens me when people don't take the time or concern to pray about these things and know the truth. If the Christians who told me about Jesus hadn't taken the time to share the truth I'd probably still be a Mormon today. Please, pray before you vote and pray about how you can witness to a Mormon and show them the Love of God. The unknowing Christian may not think it's a big deal voting for a Mormon but when you do you're telling others that Mormonism is okay. If he's elected into the WH people can be led astray into believing this is an acceptable form of Christianity when it's not. Mormonism is a perverted form of Christianity whose view of Jesus doesn't align with the biblical Jesus. With Love in Christ, Michelle Grim
November 4, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterMichelle Grim
Yes, Mr. Snellings, I teach at BYU. But it would be an ad hominem fallacy to suggest that that fact, in and of itself, proves me wrong.

And yes, Mr. Snellings, I've lived in the Middle East (both in Egypt and in Israel) and have traveled extensively there and elsewhere in the Islamic world (e.g., in Turkey, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Indonesia, Malaysia, Kenya, Turkish Cyprus, etc.).

And, yes, Mr. Snellings, I've been persecuted in the Middle East -- though only mildly, really, and, curiously, only by self-announced Christians.

Perhaps Dr. Youssef has been persecuted by Muslims in the Middle East -- I don't know his story, specifically, but it would scarcely be surprising if he had -- but I'm not quite sure how you think that would validate his claims of parallels between Mormonism and Islam. I was once hit by a pitch in Little League, but I don't recall that it made me an expert on soccer.

Yes, Mr. Snellings, anybody can use the term "cherry-pick" and misrepresent an article. But the fact that anybody can do that doesn't demonstrate that I did that.

Anybody can mock another's accomplishments, too, and you've tried to do it. I'm sure that you write a weekly column for a bigger newspaper than I do, but I won't mock you for that.

As for arguing with "Shawna K" and "Truthseeker," sorry, but I'm just not interested. Feel free to call me a coward, as I expect you will.
November 4, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterDaniel Peterson
Mr. Youssef, you are a bigot.
November 5, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterJeff McCormack
@ Daniel Peterson

For how long and when did you live in the Middle East?

And I'm sure writing a newspaper column for a weekly newspaper automatically makes you qualified to comment on anything, right?

@ Jeff McCormack

And why do you say that he is a bigot?
November 5, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterJonny Crumly
A Call to Grace:
For all Mormons who may be reading this blog -

Are you trusting your eternal salvation to Joseph Smith and his revelations and teachings, or are you trusting in Jesus Christ of the Bible - who is God in flesh. He said in John 14: 6 "I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."

Are you trusting in your good works for eternal salvation? It says in Isaiah 64:6 that all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags...Romans 10: 3-4 says "For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and seeking to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted to the righteousness of God. For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes."

You CANNOT mix grace and works, one cancels out the other: Romans 11: 6 says "And if by grace, then it is no longer of works; otherwise grace is no longer grace. But if it is of works, it is no longer grace; otherwise work is no longer work." Galatians 2: 16 says "Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law but by faith in Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, that we might be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the law; for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified." Galatians 2: 21 says "I do not set aside the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the law, then Christ died in vain."

The Almighty, unchanging, omnipotent, omniscient, creator God of the universe has sent His Son Jesus Christ into the world. All false religions have us reach up to god. The one true God has come to us as His Son Jesus Christ, to give Himself as a complete and final sacrifice for our sins. He has paid it all. His gift is there for us if we are willing to accept it. Ephesians 2: 8-9 says "For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast."

Ephesians 2: 13-18 says "For now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ. For He Himself is our peace, Who has made both one, and has broken down the middle wall of separation, having abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, so as to create in Himself one new man from the two, thus making peace, and that He might reconcile both to God in one body through the cross, thereby putting to death the enmity and He came and preached peace to you who were afar off and to those who were near. For through Him we both have access by one Spirit to the Father."

Have you ever considered that the New Testament is the New Covenant? Please read the New Testament and ask God to reveal to you what it means.

And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free...

Mr. Peterson - it's not about you, it's not about us..it's not about our education or our experiences...it's about the truth and our eternal salvation...We will all stand before God someday and be accountable for the truth that we have been given and John 1: 1-3 says "In the beginning was the Word (Jesus) and the Word (Jesus) was with God and the Word (Jesus) was God. He was in the beginning with God. (He was not created or procreated) all things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. (He was Almighty God, the Creator) and the Word became flesh and dwelt among us"

God became flesh and came down to us to rescue us from our sins.

...and as it says - let God be true, and every man a liar
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